you mention steroids in your article. however, there is no proof. >> no proof. >> let me say right now, and you don't make the allegation. >> no, i do not. >> but there have been whispers. and do you think that's being now pursued? >> you know, i'm sure it's being pursued, and i think you have to assume, unfortunately, with any athlete, that there's a possibility. and you know what? >> those are the times we're living in. >> i understand it, because you're talking about -- you know, you take performance enhancers, you're talking about making tens of millions of dollars, and maybe it's unfair, but every athlete has to come under scrutiny. >> let me ask you about redemption. he's probably in the worst time of his life at this moment, but america loves a sinner and they love to take people, build people up, tear them down and then build them back up again. >> right. >> what's the future, in your opinion? >> i think he should come back, shaved head, tattoos around his arms, bad to the bone, come in on a harley, win the masters, throw away the green jacket and go into the tent and find the prettiest woman. i don't think he'll do that. >> i don't know what's worse, the lee trevino comment or that.